Random Thoughts Again

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:52 pm

Speaking of things that defy parody, I invite you all to read the NYT piece on all the people who protected and enabled Harvey Weinstein the past 30 years. It's an amazing, and disgusting, story.

LioninVa
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby LioninVa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:06 am

Thanks, B-Dub! The boy was very excited last night!

He was getting ready to apply to his other choices, UVa and a few others as the deadlines were approaching, so he can save a few buck on application fees. He applied to W&M during the 'early decision' phase which commits him upon acceptance. Like you said, now we have to figure out the funding aspects of it all. He will be studying kinesiology and hopes to go to med school afterwards, so the bills aren't going away anytime soon. On the other hand, he is in a select medical arts program in high school and the 20ish graduates last year split nearly $2M in scholarships. I am hoping to get in on some of that cash!

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:17 am

Well, on the plus side, the new "cut cut cut" tax plan eliminates the student loan deduction, so he has that going for him.

LioninVa
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby LioninVa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:58 am

Yep...

Actually, early in his junior year we discussed options to pay for school. As a Navy retiree, he asked what the military had to offer so I mentioned the academies and ROTC stuff. He asked me to look into it for him so, with a little help from the Google, I contacted a recruitment official at a Naval post graduate medical school. She sent me some information and called a few minutes later. Her advice was to not look at military support for undergrad studies because they want those cats to be out in the front lines leading troops and maybe 5 or 10% go right to grad school. She said it was better to secure loans or scholarships an get good grades before going to med school. At that point, she suggested he reach out to the various services to see if his intended path fit with a need for that service. If so, they would offer him a commission, pay him as a junior officer as well as fund his advanced education and provide him with a place to intern and work as a doctor for the number of years he was a student. He thought that might be a pretty good way to go.

Carl Spackler
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Carl Spackler » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:43 am

LioninVa wrote:So, it looks like I have to become a fan of the William and Mary Tribe... My son just got an email welcoming him to the class of 22!


Congrats Lion, that is great news. W&M is a wonderful school. What are of study is he interested in at this point?

Sorry, I had not been here in several days and didn't follow the thread to the conclusion of your comments. AND from speaking to my dentist who is former Army, your description of a military ship is accurate. Good research!

LioninVa
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby LioninVa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:21 am

Thanks, Carl! During his 3 1/2 years in the MedArts program, his future plan has changed several times. He has considered Oncology, Dermatology, Dentistry and a few others. W&M didn't offer the biology path UVa had but his counselor said that kinesiology was a good program to get prepared for just about any medical path in grad school. My son found it odd because that is one that many football players study and figured it might not be challenging enough but has been told that those guys are more inclined to become phys ed teachers or strength and conditioning specialists rather than looking at a becoming a medical doctor. Time will tell, I guess.

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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:26 am

My wife knows someone who'd kid is a doctor in the military and they paid for all his medical school. He owed them a few years of service but not an outrageous amount. He's early days but he seems to like it and may stay in for the 20 years to get the pension.

I went to law school with someone who, upon seeing A Few Good Men reached out to all the branches of the service to see if they would help him pay for the rest of law school. The Air Force agreed to pay for 2 years in exchange for a 6 year commitment. He said "alrighty", signed up, and was with the Air Force for 6 years. They offered him a promotion at the end to stay in, but he said "no thanks" and then upon leaving was hired as a civilian lawyer for the AF doing similar work. I thought he was nuts to give up the service pension if he wasn't going to go for big money at a firm, but to each their own. But, the military can be great for that kind of thing. It's a mutually beneficial relationship. They get skills they need, and individuals don't go deep into debt.

LioninVa
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby LioninVa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:07 pm

I agree completely, B-Dub. The pension at 20 is changing to some form of 401k, I think, so it’s different than to 50% of base pay for life, but a decent offer just the same. Plus the medical coverage and other benefits here and there. I can’t imagine getting out at 6 to do the same thing as a civilian unless there was a big difference in pay. But that’s just me...

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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby psu_dad » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:22 pm

I can’t imagine getting out at 6 to do the same thing as a civilian unless there was a big difference in pay.

It depends on your skill set, but there often is a big difference in pay. That's what makes it a difficult decision. Some people like the security of the guaranteed benefits the military offers to those who put in their 20. Others prefer to get out early and make more money. I'm not sure there's a "right" or "wroing" answer. I guess it comes down to a individual's personal comfort level for either option.

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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:02 pm

The guy I know was in the reserves after that. If the reserves counts towards your 20 year service pension, even at a reduced rate, that may have factored into his thinking. Not sure. And, I have no idea what he made as an officer vs. what he made as a civilian attorney but I assume he earned more once he was on the outside. Enough to offset the benefits and pension? Don't know.