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Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:26 pm
by Blue&White
Cleveland Indians won their 17th consecutive game last night. Going for 18 tonight.

Wow.

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:43 am
by Blue&White
Cleveland has won 18 in a row and the Dodgers have lost 10 in a row. What's really amazing is it's September 11, the Dodgers have lost 10 in a row and they still have 91 wins on the season already. They are clearly not going to win the 116 they were heading towards, but they may still win 100 (if they can turn things around).

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:51 am
by psu_dad
I haven't researched this, but I'm wondering if Rick Porcello is the first pitcher to ever follow up a Cy Young award by leading MLB in losses the next year. He's had several bad starts, but it's not 100% his pitching. Last year he had tremendous run support. This year, it's been bad. The Red Sox have scored two runs or fewer in 18 of his starts. Yesterday was typical, a 4-1 loss. Last year, he probably wins that game 7-4.

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:58 am
by Blue&White
I just looked up his stats. The problem isn't just run support. It's him as well.

His WHIP is way up. He's giving up more hits per 9 innings and more walks through 9 innings than last year. But, his k/9 is up a little too. But, in general, he's putting more guys on base. More guys on base means more runs scored against you. That probably explain why his ERA is way up from last year. He finished last year with an ERA of 3.15 and right now his ERA is 4.64. I know there are all kinds of secondary stats that break that stuff down, but, at a high level, that's pretty telling.

It's not your imagination. He's not pitching nearly as well. More run support helps, certainly, but the bottom line is, based on the numbers, he's putting a lot more guys on base this year. And that translates into more runs scored against and fewer wins (and more losses).

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:15 am
by psu_dad
He's not Bob Gibson. His career WHIP is over 1.3 and his career ERA is over 4. But he's had previous years when his stats weren't gaudy and he still manged to win a couple of more games than he lost. He hasn't had that luxury this year.

You score 2 runs when he's on the mound and you're going to lose 90% of those games. And that's happened 18 times this year.

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:57 pm
by Blue&White
20 in a row for Cleveland.

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:00 am
by LioninVa
I can't comprehend that, B-Dub! My dad took me to see the Tribe play when I was a kid. The visiting team had some guy named Yaz and he thought I should see him play... Very few people in the park, a handful of drunks behind us so we improved our lie, so to speak, and had a great time even though Cleveland lost (they did that a lot!)

My dad is a big fan, so I am sure he is happy right now!

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:27 am
by psu_dad
From the early 1960s when I started following MLB until the early 1990s, the Indians were never a contender fora WS. Ever. Thirty years of turd sammiches. I remember the old Municipal Stadium. It held 75,000 and the Indians had numerous years where they averaged less than 10,000 a game. It was pretty grim.

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:44 am
by LioninVa
Absolutely right, _dad!

Those early season scenes from Major League were fairly accurate...

Re: What's left of the 2017 baseball season

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:39 am
by Blue&White
psu_dad wrote:I remember the old Municipal Stadium.


I believe you meant to refer to it by its proper name, The Mistake By the Lake.