Random Thoughts Again

Carl Spackler
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Carl Spackler » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:14 pm

I heard a person defending Conyers solely because he was is an "Icon" of the African American community. That was countered by a person comparing it to Weinstein sp? making many great movies and being a Hollywood icon and that sexual abuse is criminal no matter your achievements in life. I thought it was a great counter to the first comment but it didn't take too much to counter the first comment.

So many charges and the words due process are coming up. No one at PSU got due process prior to being fired either but I didn't hear any comparisons to that debacle. Chances of some false accusations, very high. Chances of all accusations being baseless, higher. Did hear Keillor commented on his alleged abuse and if true it wasn't abuse at all but appears to be a roll of the dice to collect cash.

As we enter the giving season I found this commentary on giving in the best sense and not giving to charlatans.

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psu_dad
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby psu_dad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:31 pm

I generally don't like to donate $$$ to large charitable organizations because I don't know how much of the money ends up in the pockets of executives, rather than those who need the money. One of my wife's closest friends worked for The United Way many years ago and she was stunned by how many totally worthless management types making 6-figure salaries they had. She didn't stay there long.

I prefer to donate to local organizations where most of the people involved are volunteers and I can see where the $$$ is going.

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:47 pm

These kinds of actions and not making the allegations public due to "privacy concerns" or whatever the argument is just doesn't make sense. Doing what they are doing, by its nature, reflects poorly on him and makes it seem like he did something wrong.

Maybe there is more to this than "he touched a woman's back" and they just aren't speaking up. Maybe he put that story out there to win public support. There has to be some other aspect to this story because this just doesn't make sense. And, they are getting a lot of backlash from it, from what I read. His fans - and there are a lot of them - are pissed.

psu_dad
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby psu_dad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:51 pm

Well, other than what's been reported, he better be cleaner than new-fallen snow. Because if any other women have a story to tell, they're probably going to tell it now.

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:05 pm

Maybe he's a serial back-toucher. We can't have such people in polite society, you know.

psu_dad
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby psu_dad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:08 pm

Or a serial front-toucher.

Good grief. Ask and ye shall receive.

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:33 pm

So he touched a bear back and closed a woman's jacket to cover up her chest? That's all they have?

I agree he should keep his hands to himself, but if that is all people can come up with to complain about over a ~40+ year career, I'm not impressed. There is nothing there that justifies attacking his credibility and reputation like that. There is a mention of a complaint to MPR HR about him, but there are no details. Without knowing more, I'm really hesitant to assume anything.

This is not Roy Moore accused of being 30+ and dating - and molesting - teenagers. This is not Harvey Weinstein accused of assault and maybe rape. It's not Conyer accused of at least harassment and paying settlements. You have an allegation that he touched a woman's back and an article that says he covered up a woman's chest with her coat. I sincerely hope there is more to this because, if not, what MPR did was unconscionable.

PittGradPSUMad
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby PittGradPSUMad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:46 pm

So, contrast that against reports that Congressman Blake Farenthold, (R) Texas, used taxpayer money to settle a suit brought against him by his former communication director. Allegedly, farenthold...which appropriately rhymes with a-hole....harassed this woman for years, telling.colleagues that he had had "wet dreams" about her, among other atrocities. He denies culpability but claims to have settled for $84 million because he wanted to save taxpayers money. Isn't that like saying you shot someone to death because you knew they'd eventually die anyway? Jeeezuz! We are living in the bizarro world.
Yeah, well, that's like your opinion, man.

psu_dad
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby psu_dad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 pm

That's all they have?

Why do do you keep asking me that? :lol:

What do I know? I've never even been to Minnesota.

Blue&White
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Re: Random Thoughts Again

Postby Blue&White » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:06 pm

I'm not asking you. It's rhetorical.