2017-18 baseball off season

psu_dad
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby psu_dad » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:17 am

I've never heard of any of those guys. Isn't Brock Stassi a wrestler?

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:06 pm

No one's heard of these guys. But that doesn't mean they aren't in the Phillies Hall of Fame.

And yes, I think Brock Stassi beat Bruno Sammartino and took the All-Asiatic Championship belt away from him.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:13 am


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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:34 am

I also see the Rays are looking to dump salary and Evan Longoria could be on the market. Part of me thinks "I'd love for him to be a Met". Another part of me thinks "dude is 32 and is owed over $90M through like 2023 and his bat is already showing signs of decline". There are a few 3rd basemen on the market right now. I think Longoria is a better option overall than, say, Todd Frazier but Frazier isn't going to sign for anywhere near what Longoria is signed to right now. And, Frazier probably has the better bat. So, why would a team give up anything of value to take on that Longoria contract? My guess is they will not. Either Tampa needs to eat a lot of that contract to get something decent in return, or they are going to have to give him away for a low minor league prospect that may never make it past AA ball.

Similar situation with Stanton. He is owed a ton of money. He does have an opt out but he would have to be nuts to opt out of that contract given how back-loaded it is. I can't imagine he gets a better deal than that if he opts out. I can't imagine his agent thinks so either (but who knows - some of these agents seem nuts). Here is the rest of this contract:

2018: $25 million
2019: $26 million
2020: $26 million (he can opt out after this season)
2021: $29 million
2022: $29 million
2023: $32 million
2024: $32 million
2025: $32 million
2026: $29 million
2027: $25 million
2028: $25 million team option, $10 million buyout

So, assuming he doesn't opt out (I can't imagine he would given those numbers), and a team cuts him after 2027, he would cost you $295M. If you play him in 2028, he costs you $310M. The Marlins must have been on coke when they signed this deal. They either have to eat some money or give him away for nothing. Or, possibly, some of both.

That said, there are rumors the Cardinals, Giants and Red Sox have all been sniffing around for him. He's a good player and he can help change a team. But, he's only played >150 games twice in his career (one being last year with 159 games) and you will carry him until he's 40. I suppose if you take on that contract and you win a few World Series' before he declines maybe it's worth it. But, that is a crapload of money for a single player.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby psu_dad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 am

The Red Sox desperately need to add power to their lineup, but that contract is insane.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:44 am

Blue&White wrote:The Marlins must have been on coke when they signed this deal.


I'm thinking more along the lines of acid.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:53 am

Funny enough, I almost wrote "LSD" instead of "coke" but went with coke instead. They were on something. No sane and sober person would have done that deal.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 pm

psu_dad wrote:Yeh. I guess.

They should have gold HOF plaques for guys who were transcendent (Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, etc.) and silver HOF plaques for guys who were very good for a long time (Carl Yastrzemski, Paul Molitor, etc.)

But that's not going to happen.

PS - Except for Derek Jeter. There should be a one-time platinum HOF plaque made for him. And a duplicate of it should be on permanent display at the rotunda of the National Archives in Washington, right next to the Declaration of Independence.



Where does Kevin Millwood fit in?


:roll:

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby psu_dad » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:00 pm

A plastic plaque?

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:30 pm

Since the season ended there has been talk about an MLB investigation into the Braves and how they conducted themselves with respect to international free agents. Late yesterday MLB dropped the house on them.

The article explains basically what they did so I won't hash it out here. Their GM is now banned from baseball for life. And all their recent international signings are free agents. Not a good day to be a Braves fan.

I wonder if this now gets litigated or if they just accept the punishment. I would have thought the way these leagues are set up that the central body has a lot of power, but I see things getting litigated with the NFL all the time. Guess we will find out.