2017-18 baseball off season

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:35 am

I had forgotten about that PED suspension. I suppose the O's figured that he had a fantastic year (2015) the year after that suspension so he's probably going to be ok. But, looking at his numbers, it doesn't look like it. That guy is really feast or famine. In 2016 he hit an impressive 38 home runs, but had a total of 84 RBIs and only batted .221. You hit 38 home runs, you should drive in more than 90 runs.

As a secondary point, can anyone name a big contract that has worked out? I mean, how many of these are not busts. The least worst deal that I can think of is the Mets deal with Beltran. He signed a 7 year deal for $119M back in 2005 (which looks like a freaking bargain now). While the Mets never made it past the NLCS with him, he was productive for 6.5 seasons. And then they traded him to the Giants for Zack Wheeler (who was pitching well until he blew out his arm a few years ago and needed TJ surgery, from which he's never really made it back). Beltran's numbers with the Mets were actually better than what he put up with the Royals. So, you can't knock the production, but they didn't win with him (which is not really his fault). But, I can't think of 5+ year contract that was not a disaster. I'll have to give it some thought.
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby sameoldlama » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:37 am

Davis is a solo 55 HR man - he hits solo HRs when Orioles are either up 5 or down 5. He does consistently K around 200 times a year.
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:59 am

But, I can't think of 5+ year contract that was not a disaster. I'll have to give it some thought.

Jason Werth's wasn't a disaster, per se. He had some injury time, faded the last half of the seven years, and couldn't get the Nats over the NLDS hump. But considering the long-term contract competition, it was a lotto win for the Nationals.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:58 am

They seriously overpaid for Werth, but I agree it wasn't a disaster. I think the Nats have gotten more out of him than anyone reasonably could have expected.
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:42 pm

As a secondary point, can anyone name a big contract that has worked out?

I'd have to say the contract the Red Sox signed with Manny Ramirez worked out OK. The contract was 10 years / 200M total -- 8 years guaranteed with 2 club option years. That was a monster contract at the time. He eventually became such a PITA that they had to basically give him away in the middle of year 8 and pay his salary for that year. But they got 7-1/2 very productive years out of him.

That's about it for big Red Sox contracts working out.
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:12 pm

I can't wait for the Phillies to pay 40% of the GNP for Bryce Harper next year.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:33 pm

Well, he probably won't be signing with the Red Sox.

I remember when the Red Sox acquired Josh Beckett from the Marlins. After his first spring training start, there was a ginormous media mob camped around his locker. He was probably used to a couple of guys from the local newspaper and TV station scratching themselves and asking him a couple of questions. The look on his face was priceless. "Is this really necessary?", he asked.

Harper strikes me as the type of guy who wouldn't want to put up with that. He'd better take that into consideration before signing to play in a baseball-crazy market. Beckett was never particularly happy here. He just wanted to pitch and go home.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:01 pm

The Yankee trade for Stanton really hurt the market for Harper. Now I bet he doesn't get even $350M. How will he ever be able to provide for his family?
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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Jerry Garcia » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:49 pm

Hall of Famer Willie Keeler died on New Year's Day in 1923. He had 8591 lifetime ABs and struck 136 times in his career. In the three seasons from 1898-1900, in which he had over 1800 plate appearances, he struck out ten times. Maikel Franco routinely reaches that total in a three-game series. Amazing.

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Re: 2017-18 baseball off season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:59 am

Maybe 2018 will feel less like MLB’s owners are colluding

I actually wondered about this before seeing this article. It seems weird that there has been almost no FA movement this offseason. You have to wonder what is going on.
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