sameoldlama wrote:Everybody involved in this whole fiasco gave their share of half truths - Kavanaugh, the accusers, senate members, the press - the truth is somewhere in between.
You have no way of knowing that, though. There is no evidence that Ford lied about anything. There is, however, plenty of at least anecdotal evidence Kavanaugh lied about a lot. And people were begging to talk to the FBI and were not contacted. Given that lying to the FBI is a crime that people have gone to jail for, I doubt those people were putting their hands up to risk jail time.
sameoldlama wrote:These nominations no longer have anything to do with whether the judge is qualified for the position - it is the perception of whether they will rule favorably on potentially sensitive political issues like abortion. This circus has nothing to do with truth - with perhaps a few exceptions every vote was cast before a nominee was even named - it was just a game of whether the Ds could hang enough scandal on Kavanaugh to flip a few votes and posture for mid terms. King Solomon and Lady Justice could have a child who became a judge and if Trump nominated them Chuck Schumer would resist the nomination every step of the way.
I generally agree with this. But, the problem isn't that the Dems tried to hang a bunch of scandals on Kavanaugh. The problem is there were scandals to hang. None of this happened when Gorsuch was nominated. And, while I realize that there was little hope of preventing Trump from putting someone on the court after the election, from a judicial perspective he is far, far worse for liberals and progressives than Kavanaugh is likely to be. And, no one attacked anything about him personally. Yes, his judicial credentials were attacked, but no one attacked his character. Meanwhile, Kavanaugh claimed, under oath, that he never heard of any of this before people came out accusing him and we now know he was trying to get out in front of the 2nd accusation back in July. You don't want your nominee to be held up as a sex offender, don't nominate someone who can be held up as a sex offender. It's not that complicated.
sameoldlama wrote:But don't worry guys there will not be a Trump 2020 - it's not Russia, it's not the affairs with women - it's the personal financial malfeasance - sooner or later the never ending resources, with never ending time will catch up to some financial crime he has committed in his past. If it is not in the next two years I think even he would have the sense not to tempt fate for another four.
If the New York Times
article from the other day is accurate .... still nothing will happen. People are no longer going to be swayed by silly things like facts. Everyone has made up their minds about Trump, one way or another.
Grower - once he's on, you have to assume he's on. Nothing is going to change. And, based on what the Republicans are saying about the FBI report that was secretly released today, he's getting confirmed tomorrow.