2018 NFL Season

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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:10 pm

Once Brady goes, they will have to start this process and it's not going to be easy.

They already started the process with Garrapolo. But it didn't occur to them that Brady wanted to play forever, so the expiration date on Garrapolo arrived. Presumably they'll start the process again.

As great as Brady has been, I think replacing the HC some day is a bigger issue.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:28 pm

I wouldn't be shocked if they retire together. If you're Belichick, do you really want to start over in your late 60s with a new QB? To your point, it can take years to develop a winner again. So, is he going to coach into his 70s to see the fruit of those labors? I have no idea what his plans are, but I think him retiring when Brady does is a real possibility.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:28 pm

Again - 5 picks in Top 80 and two in Top 17.

Right. But the draft is a crap shoot.

I've seen several studies on the success rate of 1st round draft picks. The results of these studies vary somewhat because they don't all use the same criteria for defining "success". But the studies generally suggest it's a 50-50 proposition.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:43 pm

I agree the draft is a crap shoot, but more picks means better odds of getting useful players. If it's 50/50 and 7 picks results in between 3 and 4 good players, 10 picks should improve that number to 5 good players. And, it also helps that the Giants now have draft picks to trade if they want to. I still won't be surprised if they trade for Rosen. And, if they can get him for a 2nd round pick, i think that's a good deal.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:04 pm

If you're Belichick, do you really want to start over in your late 60s with a new QB?

No one has any idea what his plans are. Kraft says he's made it clear to Belichick that no matter what happens going forward, he has the job as long as he wants it. But beyond that, they've agreed not to talk about it.

I do think Brady is a factor. Belichick is currently #3 in career wins for NFL HCs. If Brady has 3 more productive years (a big if) Belichick would have 3 years to acquire and groom a replacement at QB. And at that point, he'd probably then be 2-3 years away from #1 in career wins. That could be tempting. On the other hand, if Brady walks away after next year leaving the Patriots scrambling for a QB, I could also see Belichick retiring.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby Crowbar » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:42 pm

hbendle wrote:I just feel sorry for Barkley, as the offense is now a one-trick pony. Even if that pony is more like Secretariat in this case. I'd hate to see years of his career go to waste while they retool the rest of the team.


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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:53 pm

The Lions actually made the post-season a half-dozen times when they had Sanders. But they didn't fare very well (1-6). The one post-season win they had back then was the last one in franchise history ... 28 years ago.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:34 pm

CBS is reporting that the Giants traded Beckham not because of some grand rebuild strategy but because he's a major PITA, they were concerned about his off the field behaviors, and were worried that things could get worse with him. The article goes on to say that they have no idea if any of this is actually true (of course not, but it's hilarious that they admit it) but that is what they are being told by "sources".

I don't know if it's true or not, either, but it seems incredibly reasonable to me.
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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby psu_dad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:10 pm

Francesa theorized that this was largely an ownership decision because a GM generally isn't empowered on his own to eat the kind of money they're eating here. Someone higher up wanted him gone and when a decent offer came in, they gave their blessing. Could very well be true.

The Giants have been good and bad over the decades, but they've never been a Clown Show until Beckham showed up. Good riddance. Assclown.

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Re: 2018 NFL Season

Postby Blue&White » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:14 pm

There has been a lot of speculation that John Mara was not impressed by his antics. I guess last season was the final straw.
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