psu_dad wrote:The re-sale value is also bad. No one wants them. My current 5-speed Honda is probably my last.
Yes, resale value is bad but there is a demand for them and the scarcity makes them easy to move. Case in point: when I bought this car in January I had to break a lease (as a side note - I HATE leasing). I had 18 months to go on it and it almost killed the deal because getting out of a lease with that much time left isn't always easy. I had 2 things going for me - I put more than 2X the amount down than was required (to reduce the lease payments to a pittance) and the car was a stick. They ended up buying it outright because their used car guy said he couldn't keep sticks in stock. People came in looking for them and didn't care about much else. Granted, that wouldn't have been enough if the buy out on the car wasn't low enough, but it seemed to make a difference.
Lama - driving a stick in gridlock never, ever bothered me. As for having to replace the clutch, sure, it's a pain, but I just viewed it as maintenance. Same as having to replace the belts, the tires, the breaks, etc. If you catch it early enough it's not crazy expensive. And, if you know how to drive a stick then a clutch should last you ~100,000 miles.