College Sports Scandals

Blue&White
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College Sports Scandals

Postby Blue&White » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:22 pm

Rick Pitino was just fired from Louisville. The AD is out as well.

I copied the below from an ESPN article to explain what why:

"On Tuesday, 10 men -- including a top Adidas executive and four assistant coaches -- were charged with using hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes to influence star athletes' choice of schools, shoe sponsors, agents, even tailors. Federal prosecutors said at least three top high school recruits were promised payments of as much as $150,000, using money supplied by Adidas, to attend two universities sponsored by the athletic shoe company. Louisville's president later confirmed the school is part of the investigation."

He should be banned from coaching at the college level. Everyone involved should be banned from forever working in any capacity with an athletic department of any university. I heard earlier this is the 3rd time in like a year Louisville had been caught doing something. Curious to see if the NCAA has the stones to do anything about it.

sameoldlama
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby sameoldlama » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:00 pm

The NCAA HQ has an Emmertload of well compensated executives benefitting from this system continued "status quo" - as they have proven with their steadfast unwillingness to do anything about 2017 Men's Hoops Champs UNC they are about revenue generation first and foremost. In fact I think they play a that quote from Joe Pesci in Casino "It's all about the dollars" on continuous loop as a subliminal message at all NCAA events.

Blue&White
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby Blue&White » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:08 pm

If they re-filmed the demise of Nicky Santoro and his brother with Emmert, I'd happily sit through that movie again.

Actually, I'd sit through it anyway. It's a good movie. Completely off topic but there is a hilarious video out there you can probably find on YouTube where Robert Di Nero is on Sesame Street and he's sitting with Elmo. But, instead of whatever he and Elmo were discussing they instead dubbed in the discussion that Ace and Nicky have in the dessert with Elmo talking during the Nicky parts. It's very funny.

LioninVa
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby LioninVa » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:11 pm

One of the Sailors I work with is a huge Louisville hoops fan, for some unknown reason. He wanted my take on it because I went to Penn State and, well, you know...

Anyway, I said that anyone involved (coach, administrator, player) should be penalized. I doubt they will go the road of the death penalty and I am fine with that. In fact, I would prefer to see financial and tournament restrictions rather than scholarship reductions only because that hurts kids who could use the education for their own personal betterment. I know that most of these 1 and done NBA factories aren't looking for students, but I see it like the bracket draw. Somewhere down the line, a kid who never ever would have gone to that school is denied a scholarship because he was on the bubble and lost the draw. If that makes any sense...

sameoldlama
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby sameoldlama » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:19 pm

Blue&White wrote:If they re-filmed the demise of Nicky Santoro and his brother with Emmert, I'd happily sit through that movie again.


I suspect most of us would happily be in that scene credited as "Crew Member in Cornfield with Baseball Bat"

Blue&White
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby Blue&White » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:58 pm

Lion - earlier this year the Louisville program was nailed for using strippers and hookers as a recruiting tool. Not just strippers, but strippers and hookers.

Actual prostitutes.

For high school kids they wanted to come play basketball.

Now they are at the center of what is likely going to be a massive federal indictment that may include the school itself. That part is not yet clear.

They have big problems. Huge. they could end up with the Death Penalty here.

LioninVa
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby LioninVa » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:47 pm

I know about the hooker scandal. And I get the gravity of the current investigation.

I expect to see UL punished hard and they deserve to be.

If they get the death penalty, then my scholarship point it moot...

PennState03Chris
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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby PennState03Chris » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:00 pm

Lots of folks involved, from Adidas to Nike, to financial advisors, to the AAU and similar leagues, to athletic departments and coaches. And I've yet to come across anyone who is the least bit shocked by any of this.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. What sort of trouble will Adidas and Nike be in? What happens to the NCAA? What happens to the NCAA Tournament if sponsors error on the side of political correctness and pull sponsorship of the Tournament?

What happens to all of the various college bball programs who are inevitably involved in this? Is there trickle down for college athletics across the board? How many athletic departments and college bball admin offices are having high capacity shredders overnighted from Amazon?

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On the general topic of "scandals", and a bit on the light side, the NCAA announced sanctions in recent weeks for Rutgers. Former Rutgers HC Kyle Flood was slapped with a 12-month show cause penalty. Don't imagine that once will come into play...

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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby Blue&White » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:15 pm

Hard to believe there are not other school ADs and coaches passing bricks through their intestinal track right about now. Coaches from at least 5 schools have been arrested so far. And one exec from Adidas. My favorite part of this is how the hypocrisy of the whole system is laid bare for all to see. The whole thing is inherently corrupt. College sports is an absolute moral cesspool. You can't pay football and basketball coaches millions of dollars to coach "student" athletes and not expect something like this to happen. Say what you want about the NFL or NBA but they make no pretense about being anything other than what they are: for-profit entities who will take every dollar they can.

Btw, if you want to have a really good laugh. go find the Deadspin article that talks about Louisiville and the hooker scandal and how they defended it. The short version is that a) the hookers were only a couple of hundred dollars a shot, peanuts in the scheme of things, so they shouldn't be penalized for it being a big money gift and b) strippers and blowjobs didn't really give them any real recruiting advantage based on the players they didn't sign. That's some serious chutzpah right there.

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Re: College Sports Scandals

Postby PennState03Chris » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Oh, and USC has already hired the esteemed former FBI Director Louis Freeh to lead an internal investigation into their basketball program.

USC Board: Hey Louis, we got ourselves a real scandal out here. How would you like to spend some time in ol' sunny Southern California?

Freeh: Who gave you my number?

USC Board: It was those fine folks over at Penn State. Ken Frazier couldn't stop singin' your praises. Said you were a very fine fella.

Freeh: Rate is $5 million plus travel and 5-star accommodations, you tell me who we're throwing under the bus and who needs to be protected. Deal?

USC Board: Where do we sign?